Hey everyone!
I wanted to share my exciting journey of building a camper after purchasing the classroom from Kit Campers. This project has been an incredible learning experience for me, as I dived into understanding various materials and even explored the world of Fusion 360.
Before committing to purchasing all the necessary components, I thought it would be a great idea to document my progress and create a project here. By doing so, I hope to stay motivated and accountable throughout the build. My goal is to complete this project successfully and create a camper that matches my vision, instead of going the traditional route with a FWC project.
I'll be sharing my experiences, challenges, and the lessons I learn along the way. I'm also eager to hear any advice or tips from the community as I embark on this camper build journey.
Let's make this project a memorable and fulfilling one! Stay tuned for updates and let's inspire each other to create amazing camper conversions.
Cheers!
Marterial Testing
The plan is to utilize a 2" carbon fiber composite board (CC) for constructing the roof, while opting for 1" CC for other panels to achieve insulation without excessive bulkiness. Additionally, we can explore the possibility of incorporating thinner side panels to further reduce the overall weight.
Test 1: 1" XPS foam + 1 layer carbon fiber
Carbon Fiber Sheet 2x2 Twill Weave-3K/220g
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXLJTYGN?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Glaze Coat Clear Epoxy Kit
https://www.homedepot.com/p/FAMOWOOD-1-qt-Glaze-Coat-Clear-Epoxy-Kit-5050080/301826159
I just have this left form my previous project, will upgrade to UV proof marine grade epoxy in future.
1" XPS Board foamular 150
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Owens-Corning-FOAMULAR-NGX-1-in-x-2-ft-x-2-ft-R-5-Project-Panel-XPS-Rigid-Foam-Board-Insulation-9WE/315401957
This is the most common pink board from Home Depot, foamular 150 means 15psi.
Single layer, hand lay, core has sharp corner, you may notice the fiber are hollow at corner.
Test piece dimension 6.5" x 13", failed on 125lbs. CC board bended.
Partially delaminated.
Peel the carbon from CC, mostly ok, but bottom-right corner need more epoxy.
Test piece weight 89g, double side, single layer of 220g carbon fiber.
Core weight 37g
Test 2: 1" XPS foam + 2 layer carbon fiber
Test piece survived under 125lbs.
Test 3: 9mm Nomex + 2 layer carbon fiber
Dupont Nomex 9mm 1/8" cell honeycomb core
2 layer of carbon fiber
96g of 6.5" x 13" test piece. Please ignore the ugly looking, I do not have peel ply, so use a wax package paper instead.
Test piece survived on 125lbs weight.
The Nomex are flame resistance, I throw a small piece into my BBQ stove, the carbon fiber burn out, but nomex structure still good.
Plan
There is a local supplier who has 2" foamluar 600, which is 4 times stronger then the pink foam in above test, will be perfect for roof core.
The nomex in local store are very cheap, but not sure if they can find more, $20 for a 4'x4', but extremely expensive on internet, should be $100+. I will prefer to use this guys for side panels.
Question
How can I deal with the edge, both for XPS and Nomex honeycomb?
Thanks for providing the BOM and CAD file from KIT camper. It has helped me gain a clearer understanding of my ideas:
My plan is to construct the entire popup system and roof using carbon fiber composite board, which will significantly reduce the weight of the camper.
The use of aluminum profiles allows me to break down the big project into smaller, manageable tasks, enabling me to tackle them one by one.
Based on this concept, I have created a simplified 8020 frame based on the KIT CAD file. Since I am still learning to use Fusion 360, I have utilized tubes instead of the exact profiles, but I aim to improve this aspect in the future.
Highlights of my design include:
Retaining the 1030 rail mount from the KIT design, which I find to be a clever and thoughtful idea compared to a more conventional 1020 design.
Utilizing 2020 as the main frame, as opposed to KIT's use of 2040 for the tent base, since the roof will be much lighter than aluminium frame.
Below is a simplifed 80/20 Frame, it's demostrate all the aluminum profiled used in this project:
With this frame, I can split my work to small project (microservices in software develop): 1. Popup roof
2. Bed tube
3. Side Panel
4. Rear Door
5. Front Panel
POC1: Hiatus with a Amazon box
POC 2: Hiatus with 3mm wood
POC 3: 8020 + XPS + Solar Panel.
My cat Spark love this version, the camper name will be named "Spark"
I'm specifically looking for an overland-style pop-up topper. Requirements:
Yes: Topper design No: Slide-in configuration
Yes: Pop-up feature No: Full-size overhead cab
Yes: Same width as truck rail No: Wider than the rail Better: Hard side Okay: Soft side
Side dinette floor plan in the best floor plan for me, though I am aware it has balancing issue since most heavy stuffs are on driver side.
(photo from FWC Hawk) Candidates: FWC Project M
Pros:
Reliable: 50-year history
Reasonable price
Lightweight benifit from aluminum frame
Cons:
Non-removable structure bench
Soft side
Wider than truck rail
Hiatus Camper
Pros:
Innovative hard side design
Cons:
A startup with much higher price lable than FWC
New company, build quality unknown.
ORU Design Bruin
Pros:
Simple structure
Cons:
Hard side connected with canvas
Build quality
Rossmönster
Pros:
Full hard side
Huge window in front and rear
Cons:
Popup too tall due to truck bed storage
Lack of insulation
Rear/front window are not easy to setup
Kit Camper
Pros:
Aluminium extrusion profile frame, highly customizable, DIY friendly
Cons:
Soft side
Not confident about seal, risk of leaking
Have to DIY everything.
Decision is a mixed DIY:
Frame: from KIT, aluminium extrusion profile.
Popup: from Rossmönster, two piece side wall.
Dimensions: from FWC no brainer.
Hi Pearce!
This is a phenomenal idea! I look forward to seeing your build progress and helping in any way that I can. If possible, let's try and emulate something like ripcords forum posts - https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/how-to-diy-wedge-camper.604686/
Please let me know if you have any other questions! I am super excited for this!